Bush's Speech on Fighting Islam

[abujamal]

on 28 June 2005, Bush gave a prime-time speech to his nation on the importance of its mission in Iraq. Below are some extracts. If you replace "terror", "radicalism", "extremism" and "totalitarian/terrorist etc ideology" with "Islam" and "Terrorists" with the "Islamic Ummah", it all falls into place: The fear America has of the Ummah completing its revival on Islam, unifying the Ummah under a single Islamic leadership removing the disbelievers who rule the Muslims at present, and performing its obligation of spreading Islam to the world by Jihad.

References to 9/11 are a smokescreen to play on the emotions of his people to restore their confidence after set-backs have made them begin to cower and to attempt to confuse Muslims so they do not see this as a war on their deen.


"The troops here and across the world are fighting a global war on terror. The war reached our shores on September the 11th, 2001. The terrorists who attacked us -- and the terrorists we face -- murder in the name of a totalitarian ideology that hates freedom, rejects tolerance, and despises all dissent. Their aim is to remake the Middle East in their own grim image of tyranny and oppression -- by toppling governments, by driving us out of the region, and by exporting terror." (In other words, th Muslims establish a single Islamic State, drive out the Americans from our lands and then invite them to Islam or pay Jizya under our rule and if they refuse, then Jihad to conquer them to put them under the rule of Islam and take the Jizya by force as long as they remain disbelievers).

"The terrorists believe that free societies are essentially corrupt and decadent...." (In other words, Muslims hate homosexuality, binge-drinking, degradtaion of women who are nothing but a sex object, crime, child-abuse, single-parent bastard children societies etc etc etc)

"They are mistaken. After September the 11th, I made a commitment to the American people: This nation will not wait to be attacked again. We will defend our freedom. We will take the fight to the enemy. ...Many terrorists...are followers of the same murderous ideology that took the lives of our citizens in New York, in Washington, and Pennsylvania. There is only one course of action against them: to defeat them abroad before they attack us at home. The commander in charge of coalition operations in Iraq -- who is also senior commander at this base -- General John Vines, put it well the other day. He said: "We either deal with terrorism and this extremism abroad, or we deal with it when it comes to us." ....Our mission in Iraq is clear. We're hunting down the terrorists. We're helping Iraqis build a free nation that is an ally in the war on terror. We're advancing freedom in the broader Middle East. We are removing a source of violence and instability, and laying the foundation of peace for our children and our grandchildren." (In other words, we will fight the Muslims to take our ideology to them before they fight to bring their's to us)

"They fight because they know that the survival of their hateful ideology is at stake. They know that as freedom takes root in Iraq, it will inspire millions across the Middle East to claim their liberty, as well. And when the Middle East grows in democracy and prosperity and hope, the terrorists will lose their sponsors, lose their recruits, and lose their hopes for turning that region into a base for attacks on America and our allies around the world." (In other words, Muslims are resisting America's attempts at imposing its ideology of Capitalism in order to make the Middle East abandon Islam and therefore its motivtion to establish the Islamic State and carry Islam via Jihad to the world)

"We fight today because Iraq now carries the hope of freedom in a vital region of the world, and the rise of democracy will be the ultimate triumph over radicalism and terror." (In other words, making their ideology prevail to defeat Islam)

"When the history of this period is written, the liberation of Afghanistan and the liberation of Iraq will be remembered as great turning points in the story of freedom." (In other words, after they defeated Communism, they defeated the last opposing ideology, Islam with Iraq as its starting point - may Allah forbid!)

“The disbelievers want to extinguish Allah's light with their mouths but Allah will not allow except that His light should be perfected even though the disbelievers hate it. Allah is Who sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Deen of truth, that He will cause it to prevail over all other Deen (ways, ideologies and religions); however much the idolaters may be loath”. [TMQ 9:32-33]

[unity]

Jazak-Allah for that abu_Jamal.

I think the War on Islam is as clear as Black & White!

However, not everyone sees it "black and white". We have to make these links for a lot of muslims. However, more muslims are relising this with the actions the America is undertaking in the Middle East. Not many nowadays see this as a war for oil.

[papelotte]

You people are misguided and sick.

Grow up and drag yourselves into the 21st century.

All of these accusations are in the minds of fools who live in another age.

There is no 'War on Islam', just murderers!

From above:

"(In other words, Muslims hate homosexuality, binge-drinking, degradtaion of women who are nothing but a sex object, crime, child-abuse, single-parent bastard children societies etc etc etc)"

I have been in Muslim countries and ALL of the above are there!
Look to the future, not the past.

[abujamal]

You people are misguided and sick.

Grow up and drag yourselves into the 21st century.

All of these accusations are in the minds of fools who live in another age.

There is no 'War on Islam', just murderers!

I understand your sentiments regarding the murders of hundreds of thousands of civilians in Iraq by B52 bombers, shrapnel bombs, depleted uranium bombs etc. You can call it the "War of the Murdrers" if you like but the majority of Muslims are quite clear that this is a war on Islam - calling them sick, misguided and fools does not change the reality.

I have been in Muslim countries and ALL of the above are there!
Look to the future, not the past.

Muslims do not claim utopia but these epidemics do not plague us even though the Islamic State has been absent for nearly a century. Just look at the stats - there is NO comparison.

And Muslims ARE looking to the future to rid these miseries created by Capitalism and its Freedom/democracy in the "Free Societies" and the effects of Capitalism in creating anarchy in the world by instigating wars, civil unrest, thirld world debt, stealing the resources of these countries etc.

[papelotte]

As I thought - twisting of words and quoting the past.
You have confirmed what I have stated.

It seems that you are not happy with your life and you need to state that others are worse to make yourself content.

Instigating wars, civil unrest, third world debt and stealing resources is what the so called islamic freedom fighters in Iraq are doing (remember, it was muslims that invaded Kuwait).

I think that you are deluding yourself. All muslim countries have the same problems as non-muslim (if not more if you care to look), except they seem to have a lot of Islamic murderers wandering the streets.

Clean the dust from your own eyes before telling others they have dirty faces.

Papelotte,

The problems of the world are blamed on Capitalist greed. Capitalism as an ideology is descrutive to the world as we can see today. If we look at the past century, America has instigated nearly every war, for it's own benefit. Do you deny this?

[abujamal]

As I thought - twisting of words and quoting the past.
You have confirmed what I have stated.

It seems that you are not happy with your life and you need to state that others are worse to make yourself content.

More ration and less emotion will help in keeping the level of the discussion up so as not to resort to pesonal and shallow statements such as these.

Instigating wars, civil unrest, third world debt and stealing resources is what the so called islamic freedom fighters in Iraq are doing (remember, it was muslims that invaded Kuwait).

Actually, in case you forgot, it was America and its coalition of the co-erced and bribed who invaded Iraq which the Iraqis are heroically fighting. And Saddam was an American Agent for many years directed and supplied by America to go to war with Iran and invade Kuwait. See the Fire this Time by Ramsey Clarke, former US General Attorney.

I think that you are deluding yourself. All muslim countries have the same problems as non-muslim (if not more if you care to look), except they seem to have a lot of Islamic murderers wandering the streets.

May be you have some staistics on child-porn, peadaphilia, homosexuality, binge-drinking & hooliganism in City centres on Saturday Nights, burgularies, etc etc etc

Clean the dust from your own eyes before telling others they have dirty faces.[/quote]

Not worth addressing this non-intellectual remark.

[papelotte]

From oneummah

The problems of the world are blamed on Capitalist greed. Capitalism as an ideology is descrutive to the world as we can see today. If we look at the past century, America has instigated nearly every war, for it's own benefit. Do you deny this?


I do not have to deny this, it is absolute nonsense and probably from a proaganda spreading cleric. Name one (according to you, there should be a long list as a reply - a whole century, remember)!


From abujamal

More ration and less emotion will help in keeping the level of the discussion up so as not to resort to pesonal and shallow statements such as these.


That was not a shallow and emotional statement, it was based on sound phsychological grounding. Quite simply, the retorical prevarication and nonsensical archaic statements made in response to any posting not supporting the right wing views of many of the postings here shows that there is no real logical substance the reply, and - it is well known that, in some cases, if one is accused, accusing others will ease the discomfort.


Actually, in case you forgot, it was America and its coalition of the co-erced and bribed who invaded Iraq which the Iraqis are heroically fighting. And Saddam was an American Agent for many years directed and supplied by America to go to war with Iran and invade Kuwait. See the Fire this Time by Ramsey Clarke, former US General Attorney.



There you go quoting the past again. There are no heroic Iraqis fighting anything. The war is over and the peace needs to be consolidated. The reality of the situation is that most Iraqis want a peaceful existence and that is being stopped by a minority of murderers. It is quite simple, let the Iraqis form their own government (however it is put together) and let them live in peace. It does not matter how or why this situation was reached, the world should be there to help Iraq (and Afganistan), including the Arab/Muslim nations around the world - instead of standing idly by and pointing fingers of accusation.


May be you have some staistics on child-porn, peadaphilia, homosexuality, binge-drinking & hooliganism in City centres on Saturday Nights, burgularies, etc etc etc


You post the same statistics for Cairo, Bagdad, Bangkok, Islamabad and others if you wish and I will give you the same for Paris, London, New York and any others you might want. The fact of the matter is it seems quite OK for someone to say that that non islamic cities are corrupt without statistics, but, Allah forbid that anybody says the same against a muslim country - unless they have statistics. People are the same the world over, just because they live in a Muslim state does not mean they definately are not perverted in any way.


Not worth addressing this non-intellectual remark.


Again, it is quite simple. Before you start accusing the rest of the world for causing your problems, sort out the problems caused by yourselves.

There is NO 'War on Islam', there is only a 'War on Terror'. The War on Islam is a figment of your imaginations and will only exist there if you want it to.

Papelotte,
America had involvement in the following wars in the 20th Century:

World War I 1917-1918
Yangtze Service 1926-1927, 1930-1932
China Service 1937-1939, 1945-1957
World War II (1940 –1945)
Cold War
Cuban Missile Crisis, 1962
Dominican Republic Intervention, 1965
Grenada: Operation Urgent Fury, 1983
Korean War (1950-1953)
Vietnam War (1964-1975)
Gulf War (1990-1991)
Kosovo Conflict, 1999
War Against Terrorism 2001-

Source: http://www.history.navy.mil/wars/

I don't blame America, after-all it has an ideology it needs to spread. After the fall of Communism, Islam and Capitalism are the two remaining ideologies, one of which will prevail.

[abujamal]

"Calling Islamism the Enemy Although I sense much backsliding in the current war – with many Democrats advocating a return to the law enforcement model rather than the war model – I also see that there is a growing inclination to assert that Islamism, not "terrorism," is the enemy and that it includes a war of ideas as well as it one of violence. This recognition is vital if the barbarous enemy is to be defeated. Here are some notable examples, in reverse chronological order, of individuals and institutions being willing to call a spade a spade" Daniel Pipes

Read the full quotes here:

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/300

[abujamal]

Papelotte

Here's one example of a war instigated by America in which it supported "Jihad" and was happy to have bin Laden as an agent. This war cost the Muslims some 2 million lives.

It should by now be generally accepted that the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan on Christmas Eve 1979 was deliberately provoked by the United States. In his memoir published in 1996, the former CIA director Robert Gates made it clear that the American intelligence services began to aid the mujahidin guerrillas not after the Soviet invasion, but six months before it. In an interview two years later with Le Nouvel Observateur, President Carter's national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski proudly confirmed Gates's assertion. "According to the official version of history," Brzezinski said, "CIA aid to the mujahidin began during 1980, that's to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan. But the reality, kept secret until now, is completely different: on 3 July 1979 President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And on the same day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained that in my opinion this aid would lead to a Soviet military intervention."

Asked whether he in any way regretted these actions, Brzezinski replied:

Regret what? The secret operation was an excellent idea. It drew the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? On the day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter, saying, in essence: 'We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam War.'

Nouvel Observateur: "And neither do you regret having supported Islamic fundamentalism, which has given arms and advice to future terrorists?"

Brzezinski: "What is more important in world history? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some agitated Muslims or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War?"

http://hnn.us/articles/8438.html

I hope this makes you think rationally and not further regurgitate blindly what you have been fed by the media.

Papelotte,

Some more of Americas antics:

U.S. Intervention in Lebanon - 1958
Dominican Intervention - 1965
The Mayaguez Rescue Operation - 1975
U.S. Libya Conflict - 1981, 1986
U.S. Intervention in Lebanon - 1982-1984
U.S. Invasion of Grenada - 1983
The Tanker War (Iran) - 1987-1988
U.S. Invasion of Panama - 1989
"No-Fly Zone" War (Iraq) - 1991-2003
U.S. Intervention in Somalia - 1992-1994
U.S. Occupation of Haiti - 1994
U.S. Embassy bombings and strikes on Afghanistan and Sudan (The bin Laden War) - August, 1998
"Desert Fox" Campaign (part of U.S./Iraq Conflict) - December, 1998
Afghanistan War (Operation Enduring Freedom) - October 7, 2001-Present
Third Persian Gulf War "Operation Iraqi Freedom" - March 19, 2003-Present
Intervention in Haiti - March, 2004

Source: http://www.historyguy.com/american_military_history.html

[papelotte]

oneummah

World War I 1917-1918
Yangtze Service 1926-1927, 1930-1932
China Service 1937-1939, 1945-1957
World War II (1940 –1945)
Cold War
Cuban Missile Crisis, 1962
Dominican Republic Intervention, 1965
Grenada: Operation Urgent Fury, 1983
Korean War (1950-1953)
Vietnam War (1964-1975)
Gulf War (1990-1991)
Kosovo Conflict, 1999
War Against Terrorism 2001-

U.S. Intervention in Lebanon - 1958
Dominican Intervention - 1965
The Mayaguez Rescue Operation - 1975
U.S. Libya Conflict - 1981, 1986
U.S. Intervention in Lebanon - 1982-1984
U.S. Invasion of Grenada - 1983
The Tanker War (Iran) - 1987-1988
U.S. Invasion of Panama - 1989
"No-Fly Zone" War (Iraq) - 1991-2003
U.S. Intervention in Somalia - 1992-1994
U.S. Occupation of Haiti - 1994
U.S. Embassy bombings and strikes on Afghanistan and Sudan (The bin Laden War) - August, 1998
"Desert Fox" Campaign (part of U.S./Iraq Conflict) - December, 1998
Afghanistan War (Operation Enduring Freedom) - October 7, 2001-Present
Third Persian Gulf War "Operation Iraqi Freedom" - March 19, 2003-Present
Intervention in Haiti - March, 2004

Source: http://www.historyguy.com/american_military_history.html


I am very sorry, but this list is laughable. The US started the First World War for its own gain? You must get some new history books. WW1 started in 1914 (you must know, the murder of the Austro-Hungarion Arch Duke in Serbia - then the Austro-Hungarian empires threatens the Serbians that, if they do not hand over the killer for justice, they will declare war - they didn't hand him over so they declared war on Serbia - the Russians were allied with serbia, Russia were allied with Britain and France and so on and so on - in August 1914 the war started and was going for two years before the US joined in. So, please do not be so rediculous in your accusations. I would suggest thet you read a few other books on world history to get the truth. As for the rest of the conflicts you have listed, some seem to be figments of your imagination and the others can have simple descriptions as WW1 refuting your claim, and, most certainly the Gulf conflicts came about due to the invasion of Kuwait, the murder of millions (a lot of his own people), and the prevarications concerning the UN weapons investigaters by Saddam H.

I cannot believe that you think the US that stupid as to start so many wars.

This is the last I will be on this site. I find a lot of the content very sad.

[abujamal]

I cannot believe that you think the US that stupid as to start so many wars.

This is the last I will be on this site. I find a lot of the content very sad.

Very convenient to pick on WW1 which I agree was not instigated by America but it did partake.

Bit of a shame you chose to ignore the admission by Brezinski about Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and the long list of US invasions of other countries.

Making this your last comment is quite convienient to not have to respond to the facts presented with shallow arguments such as "I cannot believe that you think the US that stupid as to start so many wars."

Papelotte,
Correct, WW1 was not started by USA but I never did say that it was. My mistake for putting it in. Care to comment on the rest of the list?

[jungle_sniper]

i'm sure he has other things to do, like attending anger management classes.

[ivk]

Just so it is on record here in the forum...

According to this 1998 interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski, the CIA's intervention in Afghanistan preceded the 1979 Soviet invasion. This decision of the Carter Administration in 1979 to intervene and destabilise Afghanistan is the root cause of Afghanistan's destruction as a nation.


The CIA's Intervention in Afghanistan
Interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski,
President Jimmy Carter's National Security Adviser


Le Nouvel Observateur, Paris, 15-21 January 1998
Posted at globalresearch.ca 15 October 2001


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Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

B: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future terrorists?

B: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.

B: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn't a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries.

Translated from the French by Bill Blum


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http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BRZ110A.html

Copyright, Le Nouvel Observateur and Bill Blum. For fair use only.

[moo-ham-head]

Hows the Glasgow doctor doing? How do you explain the fact that he was told he was going to paradise with 72 virgins when the reality is he's stuck ina scotish hospital with 95% burns?

[abdul-ali]

I think you ought to more concerned and sure about where you are going when death over takes you and what is coming to you when you return to the Creator. Care to discuss?