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abujamal
28-07-2006, 03:51 PM
Rick Santorum, U.S. senator: "Some say we are fighting a War on Terror. That is like saying World War II was a war on blitzkrieg. Terror like blitzkrieg is a tactic used by our enemy, not the enemy itself. In World War II we fought Naziism and Japanese imperialism. Today, we are fighting against Islamic fascists. They attacked us on September 11th because we are the greatest obstacle to their openly declared mission of subjecting the entire world to their fanatical rule. I believe that the threat of Islamic fascism is just as menacing as the threat from Nazism and Soviet Communism. Now, as then, we face fanatics who will stop at nothing to dominate us. Now, as then, there is no way out; we will either win or lose. …
"So why is it so hard for so many Americans to see the nature of this war? It's not because the enemy is keeping the hostile objectives a secret. Every major Islamic fascist leader, from heads of states to heads of al Qaeda and Hizbollah, has openly identified the United States as their prime target, and repeatedly promises the creation of a new, global, ‘caliphate' where Islamic fascism will rule mankind. This language comes from both Sunni and Shi'ite fanatics, whether Arab, Persian, Indonesian, American, or British.
"And yet we are foolishly reluctant to come to terms with this terrible reality. …
"There is a bigger problem: our fear of speaking clearly, publicly, and consistently about the enemy.... we can't say or do anything that might offend Muslims. But that's backwards. The real offense to Muslims is to remain silent about an ideology that produces the systemic murder of innocents... Those who refuse to criticize Islamic fascism undermine the cause of freedom of religion because if the Islamic fascists win this war, no other religion will be permitted to flourish. …
"Islamic fascism is the great test of this generation. When we fail to fully grasp the nature of our enemy and the urgency of our victory, our own people become confused and divided, and the fascists are encouraged to believe that we're afraid of them. … We had no problem branding communism an evil empire – it was. We had no problem understanding that Nazism and fascism were evil racist empires – they were. We must now bring the same clarity to the war against Islamic fascism. …
"Islamic fascism is truly evil."
http://santorum.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressOffice.View&ContentRecord_id=1942&CFID=10462488&CFTOKEN=41759899
unity
29-07-2006, 05:59 PM
this quote by bush, clealy shows the evil and hatred they have inside.
"This moment of conflict in the Middle East is painful and tragic," Bush said. "Yet it is also a moment of opportunity for broader change in the region."
the opportunity and change in the region is to stop the rise of ISLAM.
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-07-29T152012Z_01_N28117259_RTRUKOC_0_UK-MIDEAST-BUSH.xml&pageNumber=2&imageid=&cap=&sz=13&WTModLoc=NewsArt-C1-ArticlePage2
voice_of_reason
30-07-2006, 07:53 AM
Its interesting the language they still use to describe the "enemy". "Islamic facism". Thats a new one! But it does show the level of fear they have when they still can not come out and name the enemy.
Fizza
30-07-2006, 07:00 PM
"And so we have -- we've taken a foreign policy that says, on the one hand, we will protect ourselves from further attack in the short run by -- by being aggressive and chasing down the killers and bringing them to justice -- and make no mistake, they're still out there and they would like to harm our respective peoples because of what we stand for. In the long term, to defeat this ideology -- and they're bound by an ideology -- you defeat it with a more hopeful ideology called freedom.
And I -- look, I fully understand some people don't believe it's possible for freedom and democracy to overcome this ideology of hatred. I understand that. I just happen to believe it is possible, and I believe it will happen.
And so what you're seeing is, you know, a clash of governing styles. For example, you know -- you know, the -- the -- the notion of democracy beginning to emerge -- emerge scares the ideologues, the totalitarians, those who want to impose their vision.
It just frightens them. And so they respond. They've always been violent
And so what the world is seeing is a -- is a desire by this country and -- and our allies to defeat the ideology of hate with an ideology that has worked and that brings hope." - BUSH
Read in full http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Bush_Blair_announce_Rice_dispatched_to_0728.html
abujamal
04-09-2006, 10:45 AM
From his recent speech, Substitute bush's use of words like "tyranny, terror, extremism, ideology of hate etc" with Islam and sense the dreaded fear of the Islamic takeover that haunts the West! My comments in Blue.
...they are all pursuing the same objective -- to turn back the advance of freedom, and impose a dark vision of tyranny and terror across the world.
And the unifying feature of this movement, the link that spans sectarian divisions and local grievances, is the rigid conviction that free societies are a threat to their twisted view of Islam. (ie secularism is a threat to Islam. Strange as his entire speech is about fighting Islam and the need to defeat it as communism by their ideology!)
The war we fight today is more than a military conflict; it is the decisive ideological struggle of the 21st century. On one side are those who believe in the values of freedom and moderation -- the right of all people to speak, and worship, and live in liberty. (ie the West, the kaffir and Munafiq)
And on the other side are those driven by the values of tyranny and extremism (ie the Ummah driven by Islam).
As veterans, you have seen this kind of enemy before. They're successors to Fascists, to Nazis, to Communists, and other totalitarians of the 20th century. And history shows what the outcome will be: This war will be difficult; this war will be long; and this war will end in the defeat of the terrorists and totalitarians, and a victory for the cause of freedom and liberty. (Applause.).....
We will take the side of democratic leaders and reformers across the Middle East. We will support the voices of tolerance and moderation in the Muslim world. (ie the kaffir, munafiq, secularists and those who live in the dark and are smitten by the west)
These groups have different long-term ambitions, but the same immediate goals. They want to drive America and our coalition out of Iraq and the Middle East, so they can stop the advance of freedom and impose their dark vision on the people of the Middle East. (Applause.)
But we should all agree that the battle for Iraq is now central to the ideological struggle of the 21st century. We will not allow the terrorists to dictate the future of this century -- so we will defeat them in Iraq. (Applause.)
For all the debate, American policy in the Middle East comes down to a straightforward choice. We can allow the Middle East to continue on its course -- on the course it was headed before September the 11th, and a generation from now, our children will face a region dominated by terrorist states and radical dictators armed with nuclear weapons. (ie the inevitable rise of the Islamic State which gives them nightmares!)
Or we can stop that from happening, by rallying the world to confront the ideology of hate....(Wishful thinking on their part, Islam can never be defeated and is bound to prevail.)
full speech here http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/08/20060831-1.html
abujamal
04-09-2006, 09:42 PM
Islamic Fascism": Well, It’s Half Right
By Timothy R. Furnish
Ph.D (Islamic History), is Assistant Professor, History, Georgia Perimeter College, Dunwoody,
Since the 9/11 attacks President Bush has walked a politically correct tight-rope in referring to the enemies of this country operating from an Islamic geographical and ideological context. The President, and his administration, have always been careful to describe the struggle, from our end, as a war “on terror.” (In fact, the official rubric was, and remains, the “Global War on Terror,” or GWOT.) Perhaps burned by his one rhetorical sin—declaring a “crusade” to get those responsible for killing 3,000 Americans and catching hell for using that term—Bush has been bending over backwards to mollify his critics and avoid even the perceived hint of impropriety toward Muslims and Islam.
No longer. This past week...the President said “this nation is at war with Islamic fascists….” In doing so he seems to have finally caved in to critics, mainly of his own party, who have ridiculed the “war on terror” as inadequate, indicting merely a methodology and not the ideology behind it....
http://hnn.us/articles/29162.html
abujamal
06-09-2006, 03:49 PM
In a speech given by George Bush yesterday (5 Sept 06), he has come closer than ever in declaring that the War on Terror is a war to prevent the establishment of the Khilafah (Islamic State) which will unify all the Muslim lands into 1 single Islamic State, remove Israel, and go on to liberate the World from the tyranny of their ideology, Capitalism.
Having talked about Capitalism’s victory over Communism during the cold war, he goes on to say that this time, they are taking on their new enemy ideology (Islam) before it “gathers in Strength” and “full takes root”. This is a reference to the Islamic revival becoming complete with the Islamic Ummah fully behind their ideology moving to establish the Khilafah State through which the entire Ummah with its full State apparatuses, military, economy, resources, 1 billion Muslims etc will confront America. So they would rather take on the Islamic movements now rather than the whole Ummah via the Khilafah State in future, which gives them nightmares.
Let us make their nightmares come true.
“These al Qaeda terrorists and those who share their ideology are violent Sunni extremists. They're driven by a radical and perverted vision of Islam that rejects tolerance….They hope to establish a violent political utopia across the Middle East, which they call a "Caliphate" -- where all would be ruled according to their hateful ideology….
This caliphate would be a totalitarian Islamic empire encompassing all current and former Muslim lands, stretching from Europe to North Africa, the Middle East, and Southeast Asia….
Still other captured documents show al Qaeda's strategy for infiltrating Muslim nations, establishing terrorist enclaves, overthrowing governments, and building their totalitarian empire…..
According to their public statements, countries that have -- they have targeted stretch from the Middle East to Africa, to Southeast Asia.
Through this strategy, al Qaeda and its allies intend to create numerous, decentralized operating bases across the world, from which they can plan new attacks, and advance their vision of a unified, totalitarian Islamic state that can confront and eventually destroy the free world.
These terrorists hope to drive America and our coalition out of Afghanistan, so they can restore the safe haven they lost when coalition forces drove them out five years ago. But they've made clear that the most important front in their struggle against America is Iraq -- the nation bin Laden has declared the "capital of the Caliphate."
Here is what al Qaeda says they will do if they succeed in driving us out of Iraq: The terrorist Zawahiri has said that al Qaeda will proceed with "several incremental goals. The first stage: Expel the Americans from Iraq. The second stage: Establish an Islamic authority or amirate, then develop it and support it until it achieves the level of Caliphate… The third stage: Extend the jihad wave to the secular countries neighboring Iraq. And the fourth stage: …the clash with Israel."
And now, freedom is once again contending with the forces of darkness and tyranny. This time, the battle is unfolding in a new region -- the broader Middle East. This time, we're not waiting for our enemies to gather in strength. This time, we're confronting them before they gain the capacity to inflict unspeakable damage on the world, and we're confronting their hateful ideology before it fully takes root.” Bush 5 Sept 06
neelu
06-09-2006, 10:28 PM
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Here is what al Qaeda says they will do if they succeed in driving us out of Iraq: The terrorist Zawahiri has said that al Qaeda will proceed with "several incremental goals. The first stage: Expel the Americans from Iraq. The second stage: Establish an Islamic authority or amirate, then develop it and support it until it achieves the level of Caliphate… The third stage: Extend the jihad wave to the secular countries neighboring Iraq. And the fourth stage: …the clash with Israel."
Who is this by? It's the first time I've heard the word "if" being used in the context of success/failiure in Iraq. It's normally talked about as a foregone conclusion.
abujamal
07-09-2006, 10:17 AM
Bush is quoting what Al-Qaeda, bin Laden and Zawahiri are suppoosed to have said. But in reality, he is expressing the fear they have and the threat they feel from Islam but to conceal this, they are making out that it is the goal of Al- qaeda and Taliban and those "who share their ideology" to widen the incrimination of all Muslims who refuse to seprate Islam from life, ie secularize.
abujamal
19-09-2006, 05:36 PM
George Bush addresing the UN earlier today:
"At the start of the 21st century, it is clear that the world is engaged in a great ideological struggle, between extremists who use terror as a weapon to create fear, and moderate people who work for peace....where the voices of moderation are empowered...."
Are these the people from amongst us who believe all religions are equal? ie that Islam and Disbelief are no different and therefore should allow their women to "marry" polythiests?
Extremists in your midst spread propaganda claiming that the West is engaged in a war against Islam. This propaganda is false and its purpose is to confuse you and justify acts of terror. We respect Islam.
Who's he kidding, apart from those who are the tools of the West?
unity
19-09-2006, 06:15 PM
i think no-body can seriously deny the fact that there is a sincere war going on to destroy islam.
we have been warned by the best of warners - Allah (swt).
the only people still think that america and the west are trying to liberate muslims and not fighting islam, are only saying this so that they can be accepted by the enemies of Allah. (be warned the kuffar will never embrace you)
abujamal
20-09-2006, 02:28 PM
John reid, Home Secretary, is now trying to get Muslims to spy on their own kids, to look for tell-tale signs. Like what? They are becoming more interetsde in Islam and the affairs of the Ummah? Or they see Islam as more than areligion? Or they recognize war on terror is war on Islam?
And he had to emphasize the point that the War on terror is not a war on Islam. The fact they are upping their efforts to to deny that the war on terror is in fact a war on Islam reflects that they are trying to undo what has become a deep-rooted concept amongst the vast majority of the Ummah.
And like they're repeated public denial that Iraq was not about oil, the more people beleived that it was.
And similarly, the more they repeat that War on terror is not a War on Islam, the more firmer will the conviction of the Muslims become that it is!
They Plot and plan but Allah is the best of Planners (TMQ)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5362052.stm
chitchat
21-09-2006, 07:39 PM
I think these kuffar are becoming so desperate to try to put a stop to the rise of Islam. They have sensed the awakening of the Muslims and already beginning to worry about what is yet to come the full implementation of the deen of truth.
May Allah (swt) make them fail in all their efforts, to harm the Muslims and the Islam.
*Saifallah*
21-09-2006, 11:04 PM
Assalamu alaikum,
I think there were are few other aspects to this that the dirty kuffar didn’t expect, they expected the moderates to endorse the intelligence gathering of Muslims done via there families, unfortunately this would not even be feasible for the "moderates" to endorse as they would be further creating a wedge between the so called disaffected youth they are trying to capture.
But think whole heartedly the Muslim ummah is not as stupid and willing to sacrifice its children to the enemy, more and more parents are realizing that the kuffar are never to be trusted.
infact maybe one of the outcomes of this will be that Muslims will be more careful what they say to strangers (kuffar) and be vocal in defending there children, if the government were trying to win hearts and minds the idiots obviously underestimated what effect the war on Islam has had on the children of the ummah, it has started to galvanise its resolve.
These animals will never give up trying, so watch this space for the next big new British initiative.
kreation
22-09-2006, 08:27 AM
madness, is all i can say, complete and utter madness.
i am not a muslim but i would also like to point out that i have no other mainstream belief either so i am entirely nuteral from a religious perspective
all i want to say is why all this talk of "the rise of islam" since its already one of the largest religions in the world?
also you say that blair and bush are being un reasonable which ill admit bush most certainly is, but blair, surely not, if you stop and think of his situation, he goes into iraq (which almost every one in the country opposed as you well know) and the country gets bombed as a result, by what i have been lead to believe were "extremists"
(remember that this was all instigated by blair) so blair reacted by drafting and passing counter terrorism bills which you view as anti muslim legislation from what ive been reading on the site, now if you think about it it cant possably be the british publics fault that muslims want to blw themselves up to make a point in england and sadly it is (recently) only muslims doing this.
so when you all say that we are terrified and that we fear islam and are making any way possable to hinder its progress, think twice, we are mearly defending ourselves after a leader who is on the way out made a stupid mistake in the persuit of oil (which if you are all from england which im assuming you are since this is a UK site) use on a daily basis.
in conclusion i dont see why there is som much hate in this issue surly now the christian population has had its attack on islam and vice versa so now it is just becoming senseless
lastly i mean no disrespect to any of you im simply curious as to what muslims actually think about these things since the media (worldwide) is horrendously distorted
neelu
22-09-2006, 11:59 PM
im simply curious as to what muslims actually think about these things since the media (worldwide) is horrendously distorted
This is what I like to see :D
You mention the "rise of Islam" issue. Although a significant proportion (I think between a fifth and a quarter) of the world population is Muslim, unfortunately there had been stagnation in the Muslim Ummah for at least the last two centuries (if not more than that) during which Muslims gradually lost touch with certain aspects of Islam and this combination of an intellectual, spiritual and political (all of which are interconnected) decline in the Ummah has brought about much of the weakness and chaos in the Muslim world today; so in spite of Muslims being vast in number, there has been a lot of weakness in the Muslim community. References to the "rise of Islam" are usually in reference to signs that the Ummah is gradually getting back in touch with Islam and inshallah (God willing) this is a step in the right direction towards reversing the decline.
Since the fall of communism, Islam is now the only ideology left that threatens Western (Capitalist) interests. Whether western nations are bombed or not, America and her allies are still attempting to defeat Islam and had intended to do so well before 9/11 (this is proven by the PNAC document) which is described here:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1665.htm
America with the aid of her allies is fighting the war against Islam by the following means:
- Physically: by occupying strategic Muslim lands.
- Attempting to superimpose Western values which are the antithesis of Islam such as democracy, free market policies etc. This has been going on for decades in the form of setting up American and missionary schools in Muslim lands, but more recently there is more interest being shown in trying to get a working model running. My guess is that Lebanon might be picked for this job (or perhaps Palestine or Iran) as an example of how an "extremist Islamist" organisation can reform and dissolve itself into the anti-islamic political system. This would also serve to raise false hopes in the Ummah that there's an "Islamic" (token by name, but unislamic in practice) nation out there which may lead to good things for the Ummah- but even those hopes would be temporary until people see the reality and become disappointed which is what happened to the PLO in Palestine. Strangely enough, some Muslims are still falling for the exact same trick which Hamas is playing now, but that's another story.
- Attempting to reduce Islam to a 'spiritual' religion: this is done by placing pressure on Islamic scholars to hide the wider ideological aspects of quranic verses and place the entire emphasis on personal matters such as prayer and fasting. A huge amount of pressure is placed on mosques to tow this line, but as a consequence, they appear to be out of touch with ground realities so young Muslims are seeking guidance from people in the community whom they often see and look up to as older brothers such as youth workers etc.
- via false information and distorted media: this involves propaganda about Islam by reducing it to these two contexts: a) the "evil nutters" who want to blow up everyone and everything that is not linked to Osama bin Laden and b) the "good" Muslim "moderates" who have brown faces and names like "Ali" and "respected" positions in charge of mosques or "Islamic" colleges, but are Tony Blair's ventrioloquist dummies and only ever say what he likes to hear. This also means that any reference to Islam in it's true context as both a political and spiritual ideology is branded as "terrorist", "extremist", "evil ideology" and part and parcel of category a). It's a cheap scare tactic partly to scare non Muslims into supporting the war and partly to scare undecided Muslims into towing the line- Muslims generally are not falling for it.
abujamal
27-09-2006, 03:43 PM
"Until recently it was being said that what we are confronted with, here, is ‘a civil war' within Islam. That's what all this was supposed to be: not a clash of civilisations or anything like that, but a civil war within Islam. Well, the civil war appears to be over. And Islamism won it. The loser, moderate Islam, is always deceptively well-represented on the level of the op-ed page and the public debate; elsewhere, it is supine and inaudible. We are not hearing from moderate Islam. Whereas Islamism, as a mover and shaper of world events, is pretty well all there is."
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,,1868732,00.html
Looks like the kaffir are despairing with their "moderate" puppets from within the Muslim Ummah for being able to promote their corrupt new religion of Moderate Islam to replace Islam, despite acting upon the recommendations of the RAND Corporations report on fighting Islam by giving the "Modernists" platforms, backing and publicity.
Read the RAND report's summary here http://www.rand.org/pubs/monograph_reports/2005/MR1716.sum.pdf
and download the full report from here http://www.rand.org/pubs/monograph_reports/MR1716/
unity
22-12-2006, 10:36 AM
Rice backs 'worthwhile' Iraq war
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has again defended the war in Iraq, saying the investment in US lives and dollars will be "worth it".
"There have been plenty of markers that show that this is a country that is worth the investment, because once it emerges as a country that is a stabilising factor, you will have a very different kind of Middle East."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6202469.stm
She is talking about the establishment of Kufr a state and the spread of Kufr thoughts such as Freedom, Democracy, and Human Rights etc.
zangi
22-12-2006, 09:42 PM
she has no choice imagine if the kaffirs pulled out what would everyone say "all that killing all the money spent and the cowards pulled out"
Natalia_PL
26-03-2007, 01:13 PM
What war on Islam you're all talking about??? :/
It's the war on terrorism! You totally misinterpret this and that people mix the meaning of terrorism and Islam shouldn't surprise you, isn't it that all terrorists are Muslims???Try to understand other people's stances. What your approach towards Christianity would be if they were terrorists?
By the way, I totally agree with Huntington and his clash of civilizations...
if there is to be some conflict on a global scale, it'll certainly be between the western and islamic civilization; and that's not i'm intolerant or something, I know many wonderful Muslim people but...don't you think that islam is differently perceived in different parts of the world? a Belgium Muslim's attititude towards Islam is so much different to that of a Pakistani Muslim..Muslims from the East seem to be so fanatic; why don't you change that? Why you do something so that people around the world perceive you in a different way..
neelu
26-03-2007, 06:48 PM
Natalia, my post at the top of this page answers your question and proves that the current war Bush and his cronies are waging is against Islam itself and would be waged regardless of how violent or non violent Muslims are. Although the media hype focusses on July 2006 bombers etc but wherever the Muslim community are being addressed by the Kufaar the arrests, the demonisation and the emphasis is entirely placed on Muslims who know that Islam is an ideology rather than reduce it to some pansy sideline hobby like what Christianity has become (that is not meant as an insult to Christianity although we can discuss that on a different thread). I find it difficult to address your argument in its entirety as unlike 'kreation', you come across as incredibly brainwashed, but I'll try my best to explain things and hope you understand as the linking of knowledge is the best weapon against the widespread falsehoods being propagated in the media at present.
The plan of the Kufaar is to separate Muslims from all ideological knowledge of Islam so that they embrace democracy and in all but name become non Muslims- whereas Muslims who uphold Islam in its entirety are branded as 'extremists' and punished for what they think- which is VERY Orwellian indeed.
zangi
26-03-2007, 07:51 PM
Natalie_pl you are talking rubbish. You don't know what you are talking about. I bet you are the type of person who sits around your dinner table with your family,firends and you talk evil about Muslims and Islam.
You are the type of person who gloats when Muslims are killed in Iraq and is happy to see your friends from the white house trying to colonize Muslim land and furthermore i bet you celebrate the Muslim inquisition in Spain when your Spanish forefathers killed and butchered Muslims on a mass scale and forcebily converted Muslims to your filth.
You come on this Muslim website and how dare you criticize Muslims and Islam. How dare you call Muslim be it from the East Fanatic, the type of Muslims you would like us to be are the ones who convert to your rubbish.
As for Samuel Hunntington and his Class of civilization book it can go to hell with his pathetic thesis. One does not need a PHD to tell you this is a war on Islam.
This is a war on Islam and not a war on terrorism as you mention.
Natalia_PL
28-03-2007, 04:27 PM
Zangi, I don't really understand why is it that you're so aggressive. Don't offend me but bear in mind there are people whose point of view is different than yours. And I'm not a kind of person who's against Muslims, on contrary, I try to know about your culture, faith,etc.
what's wrong with criticism? If your mother criticises you for doing something wrong, do u treat her the same way? Criticism is often to make you realize certain things so don't tell i'm talking rubbish, i'm just saying what i feel about Islam and Muslims
It's said though that Islam is a religion of peace and progress but from your attitude towards people, it makes me think it's totally different. Look at Neelu's posts- they're instructive and peaceful in character
As for the war on terror, you're right Neelu- to some extent. It's the media for sure that create such distorted image of Muslims and Islam but what i'm trying to say is that I think, it's first of all You who should try and meet halfway non Muslims,change our perception of Islam.
Natalia_PL
28-03-2007, 04:27 PM
Zangi, I don't really understand why is it that you're so aggressive. Don't offend me but bear in mind there are people whose point of view is different than yours. And I'm not a kind of person who's against Muslims, on contrary, I try to know about your culture, faith,etc.
what's wrong with criticism? If your mother criticises you for doing something wrong, do u treat her the same way? Criticism is often to make you realize certain things so don't tell i'm talking rubbish, i'm just saying what i feel about Islam and Muslims
It's said though that Islam is a religion of peace and progress but from your attitude towards people, it makes me think it's totally different. Look at Neelu's posts- they're instructive and peaceful in character
As for the war on terror, you're right Neelu- to some extent. It's the media for sure that create such distorted image of Muslims and Islam but what i'm trying to say is that I think, it's first of all You who should try and meet halfway non Muslims,change our perception of Islam.
zangi
28-03-2007, 05:44 PM
I am not the one who is being aggressive. You hatred for Islam and Muslim offend me and other Muslims.
You are the type of persom who is against Muslims, which you comments proved on this link.
There is nothing wrong with criticism but what you wrote was not criticism but rather your hatered for Islam.
If my mother criticizes me i don't mind but if she critcizes Islam/ Muslims then i will speak up against her.
I do believe your comments reflect your views about Islam which is hatered.
I do not see why Muslims should meet anyone halfway as we are not in the wrong but rather we are the victims of this war on Islam/ Muslims.
neelu
28-03-2007, 11:36 PM
As for the question of "Muslims meeting the host community halfway", I answered that in response to your other post here:
http://www.hizbuttahrir.org/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=504
Insurgents struck in the heart of the Green Zone yesterday, one of the most heavily defended places in Baghdad. The symbolism - and the bloody message - was clear with this attack on the home to the US-imposed democracy.
The Green Zone bombing was not only an assault on democracy. It was intended to undermine President George Bush's troop "surge", which is denounced as a sham by so many Iraqis.
Some 92 per cent of Iraq's five million strong Sunni community say they support armed resistance against the US.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2444473.ece
Goes to show how the US is failing in their propoganda and media war beacuse the truth cannot be contained...
They hide behind the most fortified place with the most number of soldiers, intelligence and an arsenal of weaponry but still they cannot stop the mujahadeen.
al-muwahhid
16-04-2007, 01:52 PM
"War on terror" phrase is not helping the kaafir west according to their think tanks...
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/foreignaffairs/story/0,,2058227,00.html
"It is the vast majority of the people in the world - of all nationalities and faiths - against a small number of loose, shifting and disparate groups who have relatively little in common apart from their identification with others who share their distorted view of the world and their idea of being part of something bigger.
"What these groups want is to force their individual and narrow values on others without dialogue, without debate, through violence. And by letting them feel part of something bigger, we give them strength."
What, the fact we are one ummah and we want to unite our lands, armies and resources and live according to Islam?
Using "hard power" alone will not be enough to tackle terrorist groups, he will say.
"It can certainly win the battle - but without soft power, we cannot win the war that will deliver better governance, sustainable peace and lasting prosperity.
"The fight for the kind of world that most people want can, in the end, only be won in a different battle - a battle of values and ideas."
It's all about the battle of ideas and values, between those from the Islamic Viewpoint and those from from the secular capitalist viewpoint..
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